Mr. John Ostick Holds Student Mock Presidential Election
With an upcoming presidential election, Ostick continues his tradition of holding a student election at Malvern Prep and St. Joe’s University
Mr. Ostick has been teaching for decades and his intrigue in student viewpoints and how they would contribute to the Presidential voting has not ceased.
“This is my 45th year teaching… At Malvern Prep, in the 2012 election, Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama is when I started doing it formally, both here and in my position of being an adjunct professor at St. Joe’s University of Philadelphia,” Ostick said.
The election is held every four years. With only the two major candidates as options, students anonymously vote for their favorite. The survey is taken at the beginning of the school year and right before the real Presidential election takes place. Cormac Delaney ’21 explains what the mock election is and why Ostick holds one every presidential election year.
“He’s curious to see the results after seven or so weeks of Economics, when we will be more informed by the time that we actually make our decisions. He hypothesizes that the results won’t change when he surveys us before the election again because in the past the results have basically been the same,” Delaney said.
Ostick has been committed to holding these elections for many years. He believes that people should always vote issues-based, and he wants to ensure that they are taking the information they learn in his class and using it for good.
“It’s interesting to know the demographics of the population,” Ostick said. “I started doing [the poll] to measure the population’s demographic, never to say ‘one is better than the other’, but to make sure that students of Economics are looking at issues.”
The 2012 election of Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney was the first formal election he held. Resulting in a 92% for Romney and only 8% for Obama in the Malvern poll, the dramatically one sided results shocked Ostick.
“I really wondered at that time why that was the case, knowing that Malvern was going to be a red school most likely. The fact that it was 92% to 8% made me wonder. ‘Why was it so scewed that way? Did Barack Obama do a bad job in his first four years? Was he doing a bad job both domestically and foreign? Did it have anything to do with the color of his skin?’ I don’t know, but that’s what I thought of,” Ostick said.
After another four years, Ostick held a mock election again, this time for Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton. Unsurprisingly, Donald Trump won 88% to 12%.
“Again, not surprising. Here was a woman running for President, a woman that had a lot of political and governmental jobs,” Ostick said. “She was the first lady, head of state, so that was interesting. It was not surprising that it went red, but it went red so much.”
This year, Ostick held the election once more between candidates Donald Trump and Joe Biden, however, the results were different from previous years. The republican candidate still won, but only 74% Trump to a 26% Biden.
“That’s a 3 times increase from 2012. That’s interesting. Malvern has had a directive to make the school more diverse. That’s probably a factor. For the faculty, we’ve had programs called ‘The Seed Program’ and there is a diversity club. The fact that blue is three times as much as it was eight years ago I think is an encouraging thing,” Ostick said.
Henry Fish ’22 was not surprised by the results. He believes the environment and economy play a large part in the outcome of the election.
“The result of our class “Mock Election” did not surprise me in the slightest. A large majority of families that are very privileged and blessed with immense amounts of wealth. Students partaking in AP Econ have seen the ups and downs of our economy over the last 6 months. They also may have had some incitement for the presidential election,” said Fish.
Cormac Delaney thought that Trump received more votes than he expected.
“To be honest I was sort of surprised by the results. I expected Trump to get a lot of votes but I didn’t expect it to be that high or for him to even win the majority,” Delaney said.
Also holding the elections for his class at St Joe’s, Ostick finds that those results are often much more close.
“The Malvern seniors could be there (St. Joe’s) next year,” Ostick said. “If you’re asking me, maybe it is more maturity, being out of the family, giving students a chance to think for themselves a bit more. At St. Joe’s, the demographic is different from Malvern Prep.”
In pointing out that the social studies department has done a great job at allowing students to think on their own, Ostick hopes to get every member in the Malvern Community to start talking about this topic.
“I think the entire social studies department has that kind of thought process and creativity to get students to think for themselves,” Ostick said. “Students have to pull that lever on their own, it has nothing to do with my opinion.”
Ostick describes how this election will decide more long term impacts of the country rather than short term impacts.
“Remember all choices are short run benefit cost analysis and long run[benefit cost analysis]. November 3rd will be a short run decision, but it clearly has long run impacts for the United States of America”
Bernadette Bergman • Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 pm
I am not from the Pennsylvania or even Northeastern area, so I honestly did not have much prior knowledge on the school or area–or at least not enough to make a judgement on the poll. However, after a quick Google search, I found that over 86% of the Malvern area was white, with a median income of $120,000/year. This told me quickly that the area was a predominantly white, wealthy area. Then, knowing the school was all-boys with a high school age demographic, I was able to piece together the results. Just in general, men are more likely to vote Republic than women are, and in this particular election, suburban women were a huge target, as they played a big role in Trump’s victory last election. This past election, Joe Biden and the democrats heavily targeted these women, and many commentators and polls began to find that suburban women were less attracted to Trump as a candidate. Without women in this survey, it isn’t surprising that the group favored Trump as this demographic is more likely to favor him. Additionally, in NYT exit polls, it was found that white voters who made over $100,000, were more likely to vote for Trump. With all this information, the results are not surprising. However, this poll seemed to show that Malvern was more blue than in previous years. Part of this was not surprising in retrospect, seeing that Trump lost, meaning more voters swung to Biden and knowing that Pennsylvania ended up going blue. Part of this could have also been due to Trump turning of suburban women and possibly as a result, their children, while the recent increase in racial diversity at Malvern could have also played a role.
Bernadette Bergman • Nov 30, 2020 at 2:08 pm
This result did not particularly surprise me, just purely based on the demographics of the area surveyed. I am not from Pennsylvania or the area, but after a quick Google search, I found that the school was located in Malvern, PA, an area in which the median income of inhabitants is over $120,000 per year and where over 86% of the population is white. Based on this information alone and my prior knowledge of voting patterns, it would make sense that this area would be more in favor of Republicans such as Donald Trump. Later, I confirmed my suspicions when looking at the exit voting polls as posted on the NYT. It turns out that out of white voters, 58% voted for Trump. With Malvern being a majority white area and alumns claiming it was a mainly white school, it made sense that more of the school favored Trump. Additionally, with the school eing an all-boys school, I was interested to find that in the 2020 election, more men voted for Trump, and just in general, men are more likely to vote Republican than women are. Lastly, I checked to see how both race and income affect people’s voting patterns and found that individuals who are white and make an income above $100,000 were also more likely to vote for Trump. With Malvern Prep checking so many boxes that many Trump supporters fill, this result was again, not surprising.
Anderson Craig • Nov 11, 2020 at 5:30 pm
Seeing these results were not much of a shock to me knowing the demographic background that majority of the students at Malvern share, it is not much of a surprise that the results would lean more right. I would be interested to see a similar survey though taken by students from the same (if not similar) demographic background but from California. With California citizens voting democratic the last eight elections since 1992, I am curious on how their students would vote.
John Baran • Nov 8, 2020 at 9:39 pm
I think that the results are more surprising than many people thought they were. Many students said that the overwhelming red majority is a factor of the area we live in, however, in the presidential election, Chester, Delaware, and Bucks counties averaged about 60% blue votes. This made me wonder why Malvern in particular voted the way they did. Perhaps the issues that are most connected to students here are ones that President Trump capitalized on – the economy, taxes, jobs, etc. It is definitely apparent that Malvern students form their own opinions in politics, and in school we are given tools to think for ourselves and express our viewpoints in a respectful and conversational manner. I think it is very important to allow students to share their viewpoints in a safe and secure way so that no one is afraid to speak their mind, something that Malvern has worked very hard to do and implement.
Jack Onderdonk • Nov 7, 2020 at 3:15 pm
The results from the survey are not a surprise to me. Malvern has always seemed to be a heavily conservative community. I think that if you looked at a private school in a more liberal area the results would be different. It definitely will be interesting to see what the full student-election results will be now that the election is nearly finished. I know for one, that my viewpoint has not changed and I think that most people’s have also stayed the same since the summer. There have been so many important issues regarding this election, so it is great to see that the Malvern community is heavily engaged in the Presidential race. All throughout the first few months of the year, I have had a lot of really good political discussions with my friends on both sides of the aisle. I look forward to AP Economics during the rest of the year with Mr. Ostick!
Quinn Dougherty • Nov 6, 2020 at 3:11 pm
Before I respond to this article, I want to say that both of the writers who collaborated on this piece did a great job of talking about strictly the facts at Malvern, and not what their personal belief is. What does not surprise me is that 73% of the people who answered this survey voted for Donald Trump. The reason for this is not based on COVID or the things that our President says but maybe the way the economy has been running for the past 4 years. Trump has continued to better the economy along with Obama since the recession in the 2008-2013 time period. I feel as though many of us at Malvern are educated enough on topics going on in society to make our own decisions and many of the kids support the ideas of our current President.
Rajeev Sharma • Oct 22, 2020 at 8:16 am
The election results speak to Malvern students. Malvern has clearly been one of the reddest schools in the area and as Biden grips a lead on PA, I wonder how the results will change. I don’t know if there is a bias at Malvern since I have never been through it but I think students are making their own individual decisions based off their current situation. The majority of Malvern students are from high income families and big buisinesses who would be hurt by Biden’s policies. Its economically fair for these students to vote for Trump. He is also pro-life which is another major point of contention, especially among Catholics like at Malvern. All in all, the marginal benefit for Malvern families to vote for Trump strongly outweighs the marginal cost. I can’t fairly say that students are biased but they are acting on the information most pertinent to them.
Tom Czarzasty • Oct 20, 2020 at 8:34 pm
What an interesting project in regards to Mr. Ostick’s Mock Presidential election. The most exciting thing for me as a parent, was to see my son’s interest in the Presidential Election this year and see him start to understand the role politics plays in our society. It was awesome to watch the first Presidential debate with my son and wife and the three of us having an educated discussion on all the topics that were addressed as well as how each candidate wanted to portray himself to the public. It was really cool to hear my son’s thoughts and be able answer his questions in a meaningful way. I believe so much of our belief system is based upon our own personal experiences with our family and friends. Where we grow up and where we are educated all play a vital role in developing our belief system. In today’s world, where global news and information is accessible in record time, it is extremely interesting to see the role social media (good or bad) will play in these elections. Great to see all the boys are encouraged to educate themselves on the topics, listen to others opinions, and ultimately decide for themselves who they believe is the best candidate to help our country grow and prosper.
James Peters • Oct 19, 2020 at 9:50 pm
I think that Mr. Ostick’s mock election is very instrumental in giving an insight into what politics are really about. As for me, when I was in high school I didn’t really follow politics compared to my freshman year of college. In high school, I carried the political views that my family had rather than my own perspective, during college I was able to develop my own thoughts on political views and the issues that were going on in the world. I think that the difference between being in high school and college can change the outcome of the polls. Being in college you become more of an independent person and realizes the financial obstacles that you come across. These obstacles help me personally think of economics in different ways and help me decide who I would vote for this year’s election. What surprised me the most was the increase in polls for the democratic party. Each year the polls for the democratic party are increasing and I am eager to see the outcome of this year’s election compared by Saint Josephs and Malvern Prep polls.
Ryan McShane • Oct 19, 2020 at 9:27 pm
Although the results for Malvern Prep were to be expected, it interests me how widely the political landscape can vary between private high schools. Although I now attend St. Joes, I also went to a private Catholic high school in South Jersey. Yet our political demographics showed a stark contrast to those at Malvern, showing a slight majority in favor of the Democratic nominee in a similar fashion to the St. Joes’ results. This could be the case for a variety of reasons, but it is important to point out that my former high school is co-ed. It is also known for bringing in a diverse set of students, including transfer students from other countries who provide unique perspectives to the students’ daily conversations. Given these two different schools, it seems that someone’s surrounding environment can have a great impact on their values and beliefs. And as I prepare to vote for the first time in the upcoming election, I can understand how this happens; when I was in high school, political topics and discussions were at the bottom of my priority list of things to get done, below grades, sports, and preparing for college. And it seems almost easier to just agree with the majority without doing any personal research. But as I have come to learn in Prof. Ostick’s class, it is important to understand the topics being discussed and see them from a “5% club” point of view.
Leyna Jewell • Oct 19, 2020 at 8:59 pm
The demographic of Malvern Prep is completely different from that of St. Joes and I think that plays a part in why the presidential polls were so different amongst those who voted. Since Saint Joe’s has a co-ed campus unlike Malvern Prep, it offers a different environment as well as female influence and female voters. It is important to have conversations and challenge each other in a way that is healthy and those from both parties can learn from the experience, which can help people shape their own political viewpoint. Here at Joes, conversions are frequently had and debated over where we see everyone’s views and are able to learn from other people who come from different backgrounds and upbringings than our own. As I am sure that conversations are also had at Malvern, I am not sure how many of their students really have made their own decisions and formed their own views based on what they believe. Through those opposing conversations, people can learn from one another unbiasedly, as opposed to just piggy backing off of their parents and friends views. I know personally as someone who is only 19 with this being my first time voting, I have done as much research as I could to try and formulate my own opinion and decide who I feel would be the best fit to run our country. I feel like it is important to note that you are allowed to have your own opinion and not agree with everyone around you including your parents. As a female, I am unsure if I would’ve done this four years ago if my viewpoint would be different. I for sure would not be as educated and I really might have relied on my parents to make my decisions for me, which is not the case anymore.
Justin Douenias • Oct 19, 2020 at 8:22 pm
I find this article interesting based off of how different the Results are between Saint Josephs University and Malvern Prep. Both of these education systems have corresponding demographics, so one may ask, Why are the results so different? I believe this is because of the Parental influence that is obtained in High School. This may or may not be true but the Malvern Prep Survey could be more one sided just based off those students only are basing their vote on what is said in the household. Recently I have gotten registered to vote and I believe my main influence is through the education I obtain and how I could put that into political knowledge. As I said before, these education systems do have similar demographics, but the campus of Saint Josephs is located in a completely different atmosphere which definitely has an influence on political and world issues here at Saint Josephs University. At my high school, located in North Jersey a small Public School, we held a mock vote, I had no clue what I was doing, I did not have a big influence in my household, I was uneducated and not form my own opinion. But now that I am in college and have to think for myself financially, mentally, socially and while also being a student athlete, I need to think of time management and taking care of my body. With having all these on my shoulders and no reminders, I have gained knowledge of social issues and comparing myself to the bigger picture, the independent lifestyle, naturally makes you form your on opinions and belief’s. With the Malvern Prep students not entering that stage of life yet, I believe there opinions are more shaped with different influences.
Dan G • Oct 19, 2020 at 6:44 pm
Reading and analyzing the results of this mock election was very interesting. One of the biggest things I considered while thinking about they the results are the way they are is the difference in age between both the high school students and college students. I am an alumni of MP and love everything about the atmosphere and how it is improving. I came to the conclusion that while I was at Malvern, I was not extremely on top of the political news going on at that time, rather I regurgitated a lot of what I heard from my parents. As I got older and proceeded into college, and experienced internships, I began to realize that my vote can have a huge impact on how my future as a professional will turn out.
Chloe Hiner • Oct 19, 2020 at 10:42 am
i think that the results on this page are not surprising at all. I would have assumed that most of Malvern prep was a conservative voting school, and anyone from the outside could also most likely tell this. i am not surprised that the polls have changed a little because the demographic and experiences change between a high school student at an all boys school, compared to a college campus with many different types of students. When you are still in high school, it is easy to always hear the same side of the election and just ride along with your families preexisting beliefs on the best candidate. but when you are able to branch out from your family, form your own opinions without them being in your corner all of the time, you can start to see things from different points of views and get you own understanding what it means to vote and for who.
Maria Mendler • Oct 19, 2020 at 8:06 am
What a great time to be taking an Economics class! It’s so encouraging to see these young men seek to understand the issues behind this election and recognize its importance and possible effect on economy, which is among the top of most voters concerns. From the comments I’ve read and heard discussed, the boys are engaged and welcome diverse views and are learning to support their position. Thanks to Mr. Ostick for continuing to hold this mock election and give the boys an avenue for discussion and debate.
Brian Ciarlone • Oct 18, 2020 at 11:44 pm
I believe that this article is extremely interesting. I really like how Mr. Ostick is putting his class into real world relevance. It is very interesting to see how he surveys the Malvern Prep students and the St. Joe’s students especially coming from different backgrounds. I would love to see if the results change after a few weeks of economics. Extremely interesting and creative!
Deborah Chieffalo • Oct 18, 2020 at 7:30 pm
I would like to commend Mr. Ostick for conducting a mock student election. This activity allows his students to use what they have learned in class and apply it to real life. This project helps students to be informed and respect other’s viewpoints and opinions.
Regina Hess • Oct 17, 2020 at 7:43 pm
This was a fantastic article written by Chris Ayers & Mathew Hess. I liked that that they discussed previous elections as well as this election. I found the trends of different elections interesting. I appreciated that they kept a neutral tone in the article & did not try the sway the reader towards an opinion either way. This was a great reflection of localized canvassing and journalism. I look forward to a post election update!
Mike McCann • Oct 17, 2020 at 7:11 pm
What a great tradition Mr. Ostick has started, I hope it continues for years to come. Thanks to Chris Ayers and Matt Hess for an excellent article. Hopefully we as a country heal after this election and focus more on the things we Americans have in common. We have to find a way to have open and honest conversations without attacking those who have a different view. Question those who constantly fan the flames without offering civil discourse, let the truth be free.
Mary Ann Sheridan (parent) • Oct 17, 2020 at 6:15 pm
The article was a great catalyst to very thoughtful responses from the students. Engaging students to think though their choices, political or otherwise, and to have conversations to explain why they made those decisions is invaluable. I hope the students continue to discuss each political parties’ platforms on all the issues and learn to navigate through the media noise and search for facts. Thank you, Mr. Ostick, for getting the conversation started.
Khalid Alzubi • Oct 17, 2020 at 2:29 pm
I find it interesting how different the results of the mock election are between his High school and college students. I am curious to know to what extent the High schooler’s responses and political knowledge are influenced by their family’s views. I know as a new voter, I have been making a more active effort to educate myself on the political systems beyond the (biased) opinions passed down from my parents. Not that this is the case with all High schoolers, however, speaking from personal experience, the ability to vote has motivated me to form my own views that probably would have been different if I’d done this mock election 4 years ago. I wonder, also, how much of being financially independant in college influences one’s political views. I think struggling with expenses and earning money for myself has made me more empathetic and understanding of the harsh financial reality most people have to live through. However, as a student of business, I also understand the importance of a strong economy and supporting candidates that will establish good fiscal policies. These are the issues I have been struggling with since trying to become well-versed in politics for this upcoming election and it it makes me wonder how different my opinions would have been had I done this mock election in high school.
Amy Gallo • Oct 16, 2020 at 7:58 pm
I was struck by the article and the comments by the genuine interest in knowing why people responded to the mock election the way they did. The results are indicative of our environment, demographics, families, values and opinions. We are all influenced by these many variables and our perspectives and ultimately our decisions are shaped by them.
Malvern Prep is teaching their young men to think for themselves, ask questions and form their own opinions. With diversity of thought, perspectives and horizons broaden leading to better informed decisions and opinions. The youth are the future of our country and the more we can prepare them to think beyond themselves the better leaders they will become.
Kristin Sims (parent) • Oct 16, 2020 at 2:37 pm
I have two sons attending Malvern Prep, and both are thoroughly engaged in their Social Studies classes this year. AP Econ and Ap Gov have been wonderful opportunities for each of them to learn about the most pressing issues in our current economic and political environment in an unbiased setting. I can’t think of a better time in recent history to learn about how economics and government work. Not only do our students have the benefit of learning from unbiased, passionate, knowledgable teachers, but witness is unfold around them. I am not surprised by the results given the demographis of MP students. It is so important for our young adults to really educate themselves, and to “hear the other side”. Regardsless of the student’s background, they need to be informed, to look at the whole picture and not the their picture. Holding a mock election, analyzing results and creating discussion are examples of how MP is creating dialogue among their students. This will undoubtedly open their eyes a little wider and help them gain new perspectives or reinfornce existing ones. Some of these Malvern students will have the priviledge of voting on November 3rd, and I have faith that they will respect the power of this right as educated voters.
Alex Utecht (parent) • Oct 16, 2020 at 12:02 pm
I found this article and the studies on which it reported very interesting – and politics aside, inspirational. Regardless of premeditated, nurtured, or biased views, the change in percentages indicates education is occurring. Mr. Ostick’s students are evidently opening their minds to new data and information, and then evolving. Some are solidifying their view, while others are shifting. Being open to gaining further knowledge, listening to multiple sides, and learning how to formulate your own educated decision/opinion are very important aspects of life. Instilled beliefs, environmental limitations, and emotions often dictate initial reactions. To see a change in class polling, in either direction, shows independent listening, research, further understanding and thought expansion. This approach will not only make Mr. Ostick’s better voters, but better people in many aspects of life. Thank you.
Lauren Powelson • Oct 16, 2020 at 11:37 am
Thank you to Mr Ostick for conducting the poll and to the journalists who wrote the non biased/ non partisan article. This is true journalism which is not always evident in our country today. Many people formulate opinions based on social media posts and one sided “opinions” on both sides of the aisle that are prevalent on “news channels”.
One only needs to look as far as the comments of the current MP students taking AP Economics to understand the thoughtfulness of the students and their desire to understand and challenge themselves to think through the issues in the context of both an Augustinian education and their interest in the outcome of the election on the U.S. Economy.
For some of the high school students in the class it will be their first opportunity to vote! Congratulations for being engaged in the process and enjoy the opportunity to express your opinion at the polls in November!
Charles Fish • Oct 15, 2020 at 10:35 pm
As I pause Netflix, grab my Apple phone to scan Facebook, log into Amazon for my deal of the day and search Google only to see that I’m being shown ads for vacations that I just so happened to be talking about with my neighbor on the street yesterday (weird) it occurs to me that perhaps I’m the modern day Winston Smith in the greatest sitcom ever imagined in Soros’ dreams. Or am I a prole? But nah, all those stocks are up like 50% since I last stepped foot in the office…so keep looking George, Sergey, Zuck, Bezos, Hillary…I’m good with the 401k shut-up money. Or am I? Is Ostick trolling all of us? No matter, I will turn on MSNBC or CNN or (gasp!) Fox and gurgle from the firehose of political propaganda du jour and believe what they want me to believe. Fat, dumb, and gullible I say. Maybe when my kid comes home I will tell him how to vote. Or maybe I will suggest he go to a school where you can discuss differences openly, learn to listen, learn to filter, learn that both sides will have things he agrees with, and disagrees with. And at the end of the day, just like the writer’s insinuate, make his own informed decisions regardless of what others, including the disappointed and/or his own Dad suggest him to do.
Christine Hamill (Parent of Alex Hamill) • Oct 15, 2020 at 9:32 pm
Thank you for allowing our Malvern children to have a voice. This project gives students something to reflect upon and keeps them involved in what is going on in the world today. I have witnessed my own son following the polls and news more than ever this year. I am not surprised by the results. I do believe that demographics play a major role in the results. I appreciate that fact that you respect and value all opinions. Our young people are the future of our country and need to reflect on all sides in order to make informed decisions. The more students learn now, the more it will help them become leaders in the future.
Michael Ribeiro • Oct 15, 2020 at 9:54 am
The results at Malvern Prep, stated earlier, are far different than that at St. Joseph’s. This may be because of the different demographics which normally favors the Republican party, but I will take a different route. Being a student at St. Joseph’s, I can see as to why the percentages are closer. In my experience, I have observed that many students’ opinions and thought processes have changed over time while in college; I believe this comes with maturity and being around people your age more than you ever have been before. When around my peers, I find myself more engaged in conversation and open to bouncing ideas off of whoever I am speaking with. While in high school, I instead listened to my parents without actively forming opinions of my own; this is common place, so there is nothing particularly wrong with it. While my political preferences have not changed since entering college, I now understand more clearly the ideals of the opposite party and why these values mean so much more to them; this leads to a closer election because each side has a better understanding of each other.
Luis Ludosan • Oct 14, 2020 at 10:55 pm
Since I’m a german student, I try to analyze the global consequences of this election no matter which side wins in the end. Our mock election at Saint Joe’s was more pro BIden, but not unambiguously. This result basically reflects the general view outside the US on the election. None of the candidates convinced 100% that he’s the right person to lead the country with the highest GDP in the world out of the pandemic crisis. Most people in Europe (f.e.) would probably take Biden over Trump just because Trump’s international reputation isn’t very well. The fact that he missed requiring people to wear a mask to avoid a big spread of corona, at the beginning of the pandemic ,was met with harsh criticism by leaders around the world. Additionally to that, the “Black Lives Matter” movement, which also plays a major role in this election, was brought to life during his presidency, resulting in several incidents where police officers killed unarmed black people. I think these two topics are one of the main reasons why more people would vote for Biden, because he clearly expressed that he wants to do all he can to get rid of these issues. If we take a look at the economic situation in the US right now, you can say that the US was hit very hard by the pandemic. Many people lost their jobs and many businesses went bankrupt. You have to mention that America’s economy under Trump’s presidency was running very well. So although Trump made some major mistakes facing the pandemic, I can still understand why people vote for Trump, because he did a great job in some major fields like the economy. The US is one of the, if not the most important trading partner of countries like Germany and France, which results in a big international interest in this election. It’s no wonder that many Americans talk about the most important election in their history. Whoever wins will have the reins of way more than just America and its people in his hands.
Andrew Carlson • Oct 13, 2020 at 11:40 am
With politics being a very big topic in the world today, I was very intrigued by this article. Even though I do not dive in to politics as some other people may, this article had a positive effect on my thoughts for the upcoming election. I will be taking Mr. Ostick’s AP Economics class next term, and I am excited to see what the year will bring, especially the results of the election and how they will come into play in class. With the stock market changing constantly each day, the election will definitely have an instant effect on the market. After reading this article, I definitely would agree with Henry Fish’s statement in how he said the environment and economy play a large part in the outcome of the election. In the past 3 elections, the results have favored the Republican’s side, and by a big number. I am not very surprised by these numbers because of a variety of people’s hopes for a new president, whether that be improvement of economy, healthcare, jobs, or many other things. I think Malvern, and especially Mr. Ostick, have done an incredible job not stressing certain political views, but rather making us really dive into this topic and think about the pros and cons that each candidate can bring to the table. Even talking with Mr. Ostick in the hallway is very beneficial to me in how I can get a different perspective on everything going on in the political world today.
Fr. Reilly • Oct 13, 2020 at 5:24 am
Thank you, Mr. Ostick and your students, for these mock election results. What was most striking about the narratives was the implicit respect for others’ point of view. It was refreshing to read each student’s declaration of having an independent mind fostered by a Malvern Education to come to his own conclusion about the candidates. It’s a rare thing these days to value difference; an essential quality for a thriving democracy. We do need to talk about the upcoming election more on campus. We are grow when we listen.
Tyler Lauder • Oct 12, 2020 at 11:39 am
First of all, I think that Chris Ayres and Matt Hess did a great job writing this article and in putting the thoughts of the Malvern student body on paper. The article starts off by mentioning when a vote was done previously in Mr. Ostick’s Economics class, which started in 2012, when the results were 92% in favor of Romney and only 8% in favor of Obama. In 2016, it was 88% in favor of Trump and 12% in favor of Clinton, once again this year the republican candidate won with 74% of the votes for Trump and 26% for Biden. In the article it also mentions how the Malvern community and environment could play a large role in who people would want to vote for, which I believe is true but I also think that the environment we are in, and the people we are around should not form our opinions(even though it often does). An interesting point to all of this is that in Mr. Ostick’s class these votes were taken in the first week, they will also be taken at the end of the course with the goal of not seeing if our views changed, but forming our own views and opinions based on our own findings, not the peoples around us. Will these votes change? If so, Why? In the article and also just in class, Mr. Ostick says how different the polls are at St. Joes and how the demographic changes, he believes that this is do to the change of scenery, being away from family, and just being giving the chance to really think for yourself. So for this reason I do believe that the results of these Malvern polls would be different if the students were possibly away from family, out of their comfort zone, as Mr. Ostick said, having to think and make decisions for themselves, and also if students were out in the world and having to provide and do everything for themselves, views may in fact change.
Dakota Kolar • Oct 11, 2020 at 10:46 pm
The student mock election for Mr. Ostick is a great way to gauge the classroom and see how his students are thinking. After a couple of weeks of Economics and showing the students some of the issues that are being talked about for the upcoming election, it is a good idea to see if any students changed their minds. It is pretty interesting to see how the results vary each year of the election and see if the demographic of Malvern Prep Students have changed.
The AP Economics course really goes in deep on how the economy affects the country as a whole, specific parties, and the future. Although there has been no change of mind after a couple of weeks of the course yet in Mr. Ostick’s mock elections, I think the main goal is to get students engaged in what’s going on in our country and to make a more knowledgeable choice when they go to vote on election day (if students are eligible). It is also pretty fascinating to see how these students’ decision-making compares to Mr. Ostick’s students at St. Joe’s after their experience with the course.
Election day is yet to come in the 2020 school year so it is going to be interesting to see how the next part of this year’s mock election plays out. From my small experience in the course so far, I have found myself to be way more intrigued about how things work and the economics behind the situations I look at. It definitely makes me pay more attention to the news and the world around me. I am excited to see the results of the next mock election and eager to see if our new knowledge of macroeconomics has changed anyone’s mind.
Tommy Czarzasty • Oct 11, 2020 at 10:07 pm
The article touches on Mr. Ostick’s tradition to survey the students of Malvern Prep and St. Joe’s University on the presidential election every 4 years. His goal of conducting the poll is to see how 7-8 weeks of Economics will help take the information used in his class to vote on issue-based topics and to use it wisely. Since the start of Mr. Ostick’s polls beginning in 2012, the vast majority of the votes by Malvern Prep students have been Republican while the votes at St. Joe’s University have been more equal.
The economic significance when deciding between two presidential candidates is extremely large. As Mr. Ostick always says, “The president gets too much blame when everything goes wrong and gets too much praise when everything goes right.” However, both presidential candidates have many contrasting views on how the economy should be run and will play a significant role in the success of the economy for the following 4 years and many to come.
I believe that the importance of researching before voting and voting issue-based is astronomical. It might be hard to not get engulfed with what the media is saying or what the ones who are close to you are saying, but you really have to not believe everything that you see or follow a crowd. After finishing your research and listening to both sides of the story, choose the president who you think will do the best for the wellbeing of the country and the people.
Matt Gallo • Oct 11, 2020 at 9:48 pm
I think that Mr Ostick doing a fake election before and after teaching the students economics is very interesting. I think that it reflects the demographics of the Malvern Prep students, and I think it is interesting to see the contrast between Malvern Prep and St Joe’s. St Joe’s was more split between presidential candidates, where as Malvern prep was more one sided, favoring the republican candidate.
Adam Utecht • Oct 11, 2020 at 9:03 pm
When looking at the results of the mock election held by Mr. Ostick, there is little surprise based on past results and the current Malvern Prep viewpoint. To begin, past mock elections have all leaned heavily towards the republican candidates. Seen even against an incumbent Barack Obama, a trend is definitely apparent. Mr. Ostick is quoted in the article questioning whether Obama did a bad job as president or whether the color of his skin affected the outcome of the mock election. This questioning is valid, but I believe that only one thing is certain, students’ decisions differentiate based on three factors. Firstly, the political views of a students’ parents obviously shape their own. When raised in a household that favors a certain political party, a mindset that one side is good and one side is bad commonly forms in a child’s mind. Secondly, as teenagers we are constantly becoming more mature and independent in our nature and intellect. We do our own research, naturally wanting to make decisions of our own and self educating on matters such as presidential candidates is a topic that, especially Malvern men, take time to form independent opinions on. Lastly, peer and media influence is extremely effective in changing political views. When a student’s friends and community are supportive of one candidate or another, pressure to align with others can alter opinions. Furthermore, the media is one of the most influential forces. Media sources always make one person look good and one person look bad. They try to instill anger in people to make them think a certain way and it is especially evident against our current president Donald Trump. Malvern Prep students that participated in this year’s mock presidential election made educated and informed decisions based on parental influence, self education, and peer and media influence.
Ronan Swope • Oct 11, 2020 at 8:55 pm
Firstly, I thought the students representing Malvern Prep writing this article did a fantastic job not expressing their viewpoints and showing both sides of this important time in our nation’s history. I am not surprised by the outcome of voting in the past few elections from the Malvern student population, considering we are a suburban, private, and predominantly Caucasian school. That being said, I am extremely confident that our students have very good reasons for why they chose to vote left or right. Malvern Prep’s Social Studies Department does an incredible job teaching their students about issues faced in our world today and how both political parties react/think a certain way. From an outsider’s point of view, they may not believe Malvern Prep eighteen year old students are capable of making a choice for this year’s Presidential candidate due to lack of knowledge. However, I can assure these outsiders that our students are fully aware of the problems and issues our country and world faces today and how each presidential candidate intends to fix, or at least, address them. With help of teachers like Mr. Ostick, who’s goal is to make sure each student voting in November has the proper knowledge and motives behind casting their ballots for the Presidency, their is no question students from Malvern Prep will be ready to pull the lever this fall, confident their beliefs match the candidate listed inside the voting booth.
Stephen Hollander • Oct 11, 2020 at 7:49 pm
For Mr. Ostick’s mock election, I had a feeling the mock election results would end up close to the numbers that were produced. This election is a tough one to predict because of the consistent altering opinions of each individual. However, a lot of people, especially younger, are looking at each candidate’s personality and picking the “not as bad one”, instead of reviewing the plans each candidate has made to reform the country into a better place. Even though the majority of Malvern’s community is republican, the recent and controversial actions of the president has swayed many people to vote democratic. To the majority who wished to vote republican, I hope that you too, are individually doing your own research on the candidates future plans, instead of basing your opinion off of family influence.
Sean McCarthy • Oct 11, 2020 at 6:36 pm
I am currently taking Mr. Ostick’s AP Economics class, and I am part of the 26% of students that voted for Joe Biden in the election poll. For full disclosure, I have been involved in the Biden campaign since January 2020 through a fellowship program and volunteering because I feel that there is so much at stake in this election. I believe that Joe Biden has the ability to heal and unite the country to address the biggest challenges we face-from coronavirus, to climate change, to racial inequality, and the economic recovery that needs to take place. I was not surprised by the election poll results, and frankly was actually somewhat encouraged because I think that if Joe Biden is getting 26% here at Malvern then he and Kamala Harris have a very good chance of winning Pennsylvania and the election this November.
Cormac Delaney '21 • Oct 11, 2020 at 3:30 pm
No matter what the results of the polls are, it is good to discuss political topics with my peers. Even if my point of view doesn’t change, I believe it is beneficial to try to see the other perspective. After all, this year’s theme is about hearing the other side. This poll really opened up my mind to the demographics of the Malvern Prep student body. As I mentioned in the article, the results took me by surprise. My surprise is not necessarily a bad thing, but rather introduced me to a new understanding of the opinions of my peers. Mr. Ostick’s poll does a great job of representing the current views of students, and I am interested to see if they change after a few debates and the election date approaches.
In response to Mr. Ostick’s comment about the difference in the results seen in the St. Joe’s poll, I couldn’t agree more. Colleges and universities tend to have a more balanced political basis. As he says, I think this is largely in part due to the wider demographic at St. Joe’s University compared to an institution like Malvern, resulting in closer results between the two candidates. Both schools consist of extremely well educated kids, but St. Joe’s is likely more representative of the general population of voters in the upcoming election and I think those results will be closer to the actual results of the 2020 election. I am excited to be pulling the lever for the first time myself this fall, and I hope all other students who are eligible to vote do so as well.
Michael Buono • Oct 11, 2020 at 1:36 pm
Mr. Ostick’s Class:
I really enjoyed this article, especially because I am 18 and this will be my first time voting. Before joining Mr. Ostick’s class I really have not put that much thought into who I am going to vote for. I am not a very political person and I do not discuss it with many of my friends at school. Given that I was very surprised by the outcome, but I have never really thought that deeply into Malverns political views. In the article, it had mentioned how since 2012 the votes for the democratic candidate have tripled which is amazing. I think Malvern has done a great job not pushing their political views and making us think like grown adults they have also done a great job making it more diverse by pulling kids from different backgrounds which is great for creating an open mind for the students.
Joe Sheridan • Oct 11, 2020 at 12:05 pm
This is a great article!
As a part of Mr. Ostick’s econ class, it is interesting to me to hear his viewpoint as well as the viewpoint of fellow students. This article does a great job describing how Economics is more than a class. It is a way of thinking that uses positive statements to form opinions in the real world. Elections are a great real world example. The demographic at Malvern is mostly conservative, so I am not very surprised at the overwhelmingly red results of all the mock elections. I tend to agree that a huge part of that comes from parents and the environment most Malvern students grow up in. In the past, I have never been very interested in elections or really politics in general, but thanks to my Econ class and the current issues in the world that have personally affected me, I have become very interested. I think I am very lucky to be taking this course during an election year. Although I still support the party of my parents, I have become very informed and have formed my own opinions on some key issues. The current climate with Coronavirus has made a lot of my classmates much more interested in politics because it has personally affected them. Although Covid is very bad, I think that the way it has made people more informed and concerned with our countries government is a great thing. All in all, I think this is a great article, and the mock election tradition is a good one.
Dominic Chieffalo • Oct 10, 2020 at 7:56 pm
AP Economics M-A 10 Activity:
I think this article is spot on. It is cool to compare St.Joes results to Malvern’s results. There are many differences between the two schools. The main factor that stands out to me is that students are living on their own and might make different decisions because of that. Personally the economy is a huge topic in terms of voting. I agree with Mr.Ostick when he says the community should talk about the election more. I think students are told to not share their opinion and not to talk about politics. I think it would be cool to talk about this topic and see where everyone stands. This would give the opportunity for students to maybe hear the other side of their opinion and empathizes with somebody else’s viewpoint and possibly learn something.
Ben Davis • Oct 9, 2020 at 2:45 pm
The final result of Mr. Ostick’s mock election were surprising to me at all. Past mock elections conducted by Mr. Ostick have shown the same republican majority with even steeper margins in the past. However, the results did surprise the disappointed alum, who attributed the spread to opinions derived from “nuclear family/parents” and the values current Malvern students should have, not lining up with their political beliefs. Many students taking Mr. Ostick’s class will have the chance to vote this November and make a statement of their political beliefs as individuals. As children the words of family members certainly carried a lot of weight, but now as juniors and seniors in high school, we have had plenty of time to research and formulate our own opinions, political or otherwise. Additionally, the disappointed alum’s argument only touches on the character of the two presidential candidates. I don’t think politics are as black and white as the character candidate, more important is their stance on the issues that Mr. Ostick has urged us students to think about. In my opinion it is critical to understand what political issues are most important to you, so in November you can cast your ballot for the candidate whose stance on those issues corresponds with your views.
Eddie Devine • Oct 9, 2020 at 1:40 pm
DISCLAIMER: This IS an opinion based response.
I believe that one of the main factors/reasons that Malvern students tend to sway to the right is because of the wealthy of the student body. I do not believe the results of the mock elections this year or the years prior has anything to do with moral standards, predispositions or anything close to an issue in the character of the Malvern students. I believe that the majority of Malvern students agree with the general policies of the Republican party. Which entails deregulation and decreased taxes for all. Which, again, is a policy that catches the eye of many young learners and future entrepreneurs. Malvern educates their students body on facts, giving them the foundation to critically think and develop opinions that may differ from others. This thought process embodies the respect and dignity that is integral to a malvern student.
In response to the “Disappointed Alum,” I will not fight his opinion or explain my disagreements with his beliefs; however, I will explain my disagreements with his THOUGHT PROCESS.
This alum is the embodiment of the 95 percenter, as Mr. Ostick has taught us is someone how votes and expresses themselves through their emotions and feelings rather than the facts. I believe many Malvern students today are already on their way to being the opposite, even before taking Mr. Ostick’s class. I believe the reason Malvern students sway to the right is because they believe in the policies for a better tomorrow and they want to see the world prosper. Whether the Republican party or the Democratic party is the answer to that question; time will tell. To reiterate, Malvern students are given the knowledge and objective facts to learn about issues then base their own opinions on those issues. I do not believe that moral decency plays a role in that particular students vote, I believe it is that students desire for change, drive for excellence and hope for a better tomorrow that helps that student or that voter to formulate an opinion and system that might make everyone just a little happier.
Aidan Catania • Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 pm
I know politics nowadays is such a hot topic. Everyone has their own viewpoint on issues as it should be. People come up with their opinion on the environment around them and how they grew up. In the area we live in now it is more of a conservative area. So the survey did not surprise me with the majority going to the Republican Party. No matter what your viewpoint is, you don’t have to like it. But you have to respect the other side to it. I think Malvern teachers do a great job presenting the information they need to in the most neutral way possible. So that the students can draw their own opinions on things. All in all it was a great article, and it was really interesting for me.
Henry Fish • Oct 9, 2020 at 12:46 pm
As Mark Twain quoted very long ago “never discuss politics or religion in polite company”. To discuss politics in a manner we must be sure that we do not have a slanted view for or against a party for the views that they may have. Upon reading the Friar’s Lantern article titled “ Mr. John Ostick holds a student mock presidential election” and the response by the “disappointed alum”, there were some takeaways that I personally had. It is very clear that the Malvern Prep alum contains a slanted view towards the side of liberalism. Certainly, it can be stated that both candidates of Joe Biden and president Trump have made remarks or actions that have been despicable while they have been in office. With this being said, the argument for which the “disappointed alum” makes could be true for the other side of the argument as well. Where the “disappointed alum” argument lacks authenticity is footed from the fact that the structure of the entire response is fully devoted to lambashing president Trump for his failures or wrongdoing, while offering little to no positive argument towards Biden. In the “disappointed alum” 511 word response, only 39 of the words produced in the article were devoted to laying out why Biden is a more equipped presidential candidate than Donald Trump. This obviously speaks to the fact that this partially alum has a certain kind of hatred towards Donald Trump. Economics is all about choices and decisions made by the people. As a student studying AP Economics, we are taught the values of those who are the 95% and those who are the 5%( who think differently; outside the box). As everyone should strive to be a 5% as I hope to reach this status one day, I believe as though this alum does not meet the threshold of a 5%. When thinking like an economist it is vitally important to evaluate the facts(positive) without letting out opinions(normative) hinder us from the truth. In the case of the Malvern Prep disappointed alum, he lets his opinions control his attitude about Donald Trump. He does not look at the facts or statistics that Donald Trump and Joe Biden have accomplished and compare them in this fashion. For this reason, I believe that the disappointed alum has a fraudulent argumentative response to the Friar’s Lantern article and the presidential election as a whole.
Kieran Sims • Oct 9, 2020 at 9:41 am
I would like to start off by saying these results do not come as a surprise to me. Someone who is not a part of the Malvern Prep community could also make this assumption. However, I am making this not only because I know that most students of Malvern come from a wealthy background, but because by being a part of this community, I feel like I am aware of the majority opinion at Malvern Prep. Unlike Aidan Cullen, I cannot say I am part of the Young Politicians Club; however, I do have conversations about politics with students at Malvern Prep. My friends and I got together and watched the Presidential Debate as a group, and talked on our phones throughout the entire Vice Presidential debate. I have had numerous discussions about political topics with my schoolmates at Malvern Prep, and it is apparent to me that these kids have done their research and formed their own assumptions and conclusions, enough so that we can have a conversation about our opinions in a mature way. The “Disappointed Alum” makes it seem like since 74% of students voted for Donald Trump, 74% of students are uneducated and cannot form their own opinions, instead just taking up their parents’ beliefs without any real reasoning. In some cases, this could be true, but I feel like it is an unfair assumption to make that students are simply wrong and must be taking up their parents’ beliefs just because they say they would vote for a candidate that is not the candidate YOU would vote for. If you are going to make assumptions and take shots at Malvern Prep students, at least talk with people that are a part of the current school community, and reference what you talked about.
Alex Hamill • Oct 9, 2020 at 9:15 am
Mr. Ostick’s survey for the election is a very insightful and important part of the AP Economics class and Malvern as a whole. As an AP Economics student, this survey gave me insight into the viewpoints of my brothers. This survey is a creative way to engage the AP Economics class and allowed me gauge the viewpoints of my classmates. To be honest, I was not surprised that the red candidates have a winning record at Malvern. I expected this year to be around 65% Trump and 35% Biden. I predicted this because I know people have differing viewpoints about President Trump and observed that Joe Biden has gained lots of traction during this election. Although I cannot vote, nor will I reveal who I supported in the survey, we need to respect the decisions of the Malvern students. AP Economics engages us in the everyday world, with Mr. Ostick encouraging us to look for “real-world examples” of what we are learning. I trust that my classmates did their research and did not carelessly fill out the survey. Malvern promotes individual thinking and creative approaches to these types of questions. I am excited to see the results when Mr. Ostick sends out the second survey. When he sends the second survey, all AP Economics students will have even greater knowledge on the presidential candidates. We all watch the presidential debates. Mr. Ostick should continue this survey for as long as he is at Malvern. In all, Matt Hess and Chris Ayres did a great job writing this piece, which allows the greater Malvern community to gain insight into the AP Economics class.
Ryan Powelson • Oct 9, 2020 at 8:59 am
I feel Chris and Matt wrote an excellent article here on the upcoming presidential election. The combination of facts and direct interviews in this article are excellent. It is not surprising in my opinion that the majority of students felt they would vote for Trump. I predicted this because we live in an upper middle class area with the majority of students coming from high income backgrounds and parents of the Republican Political Party. Many parents at Malvern are in that higher tax bracket which causes their thought process to be driven towards the potential impact of higher taxes on their income. A lot of students at Malvern are finance driven and feel Donald Trump is the one who is best for the economy. However, many students at Malvern are also faith driven and some of the comments by Donald Trump are not aligned with an Augustinian education. But ultimately many can look past some of Trump’s downfalls to the positives he has provided for this economy and the hard working Americans.
In terms of the comments above from a “Disappointed Alum” I feel it unprofessional to blame parents and a lack of diversity for their choice in the next presidential election. Malvern as a student body will likely always lean to the Republican Party because factors like, the area from which Malvern gains the majority of its students and the financial status of the majority of families. Malvern as an institution promotes making decisions based on critical thinking and looking through the Augustian lense. It is unfair to say “Malvern Prep has a long way to go” when Malvern Prep is a college preparatory school based on educating young men. Malvern is not a political think tank or an institution focused on promoting a right wing education. The teachers at Malvern do an excellent job at educating students. There are opportunities for students to interact in political discussions through multiple activities. However, to call for change at Malvern Prep is truthfully unthoughtful. Students have the right to express political beliefs in a respectful manner. To the “Disappointed Alum”, before you make the statement, “as such opinions are most likely derived from the nuclear family/parents. The real world is a very different place than the Malvern/Main Line/Chester County bubble”. I suggest you have a conversation with a Malvern student. Although the majority of students here come from a similar background, it is always intelligent to learn how others think before making assumptions.
Aidan Cullen • Oct 8, 2020 at 12:09 pm
These results are anything but surprising. It is very evident that we come from a largely conservative area, and it shows through this article. I will not speak to which side I am on, but I would like to respectfully disagree with the “Disappointed Alum” when he said that many of the student’s views coming from parents. I am a member of the Young Politicians Club and have listened to countless debates in and out of class. I have seen the extent of research and knowledge held by the majority of Malvern students, and it is clear that many of the students do their own research and come to their own conclusions. I, too, disagree with certain members of my family because of the research I have done on my own. The students at Malvern are the best of the best, and are some of the smartest and most innovative people I have ever met. I believe that the people at Malvern have the intelligence to challenge what they see in the mainstream media, and determine truth from fallacy. This is something that I believe is essential in politics.